Groups: unfinished tool

This is FYI. 

Am continuing my exploration of Dokeos 2.1, currently on the groups tool.

Great tool, but incomplete to the point of being mostly unusable because not user friendly, unless your learners are really motivated.

Please comment on any possible fix for the forum, assignement + document tools (see below).

1) when a learner clicks on the group tool from the course home page, if s/he is only enrolled in one course only then automatically take him/her to that groups home page. There is no need in that scenario (which I guess is a good 80% of the cases) to display the list of all the groups s/he is enrolled in.

2) Dokeos is a brilliant application, yet it falls short on the most basic function which is to easily let both learners and trainers know what has changed since their last visit. If you want it to be a true collaborative software (and you have done a tremendous amount of work already in that end), then put some serious thoughts on this topic.

This is especially the case of the groups home page. Are there any new posts in the groups forum? Has anything changed in the group wiki? Unless I pro-actively go there I'll never know. If you have an active and rolling user base with dozens of new learners every month, this is an issue.

3) Group forum: in progress

-> doesn't work. I created posts as a trainer but the learners can't see them.

-> Another annoying thing about this forum is that it gives the option both when you create a thread and just after that (when I'm logged in as a trainer only) to go to the "forum overview". It is most annoying because that's the overview of the main course forum, and (a) the group posts don't show there + (b) now I've lost my place and need to click 4 times (home, groups, my group, forum) to go back to the groups private forum.

Wiki: works fine. The "groups" menu link is very useful and should display in ALL the group tools menu

4) Assignement: in progress

-> There is no way to easily come back to the groups home page, simply because this links to the main course assignement tool. This is not specifically intended for the groups members only. It should. When, as a trainer, I create an assignement for that group, I want it to be for the members of that group only. Right now if I create an assignement following the links in the groups menu, I effectively create an assignement for all the course members.

5) Documents: 80% done

- > the left arrrow at the left of that menu is nice (it brings you back to the groups home page). The word "groups" next to it would add to make that clear.

- > "templates" and "media box" do not belong in that menu, or at least give me the option as a trainer to hide them. My learners have no use for them and that will therefore confuse them more than anything else. This screen should look exactly like the main course document interface. The only options available there are "up", "search" and "Folder". That is all that's required.

Improving Groups tool

Hi Sebastian,

Again, I am struck by the crystal clarity of your analysis. We are obsessed by usability. But indeed there are many aspects still to be amended. I ask Breetha to work on this as soon as possible following whatt I consider your 3 main requests :

Forum : when A posts, B shoulod see it and be able to answer

Groups : when I am registered in Group X, I don't need to see the Groups list. I should directly enter MY group

What has changed since my last visit should appear there in the home page of my group.

that would be awesome. Also

that would be awesome.

Also (minor detail): when you create, then delete a group (it happens) a folder gets created with that group's name but (a) it doesn't show in the Dokeos document tool + (b) it doesn't get deleted when the group gets deleted. This is something you have to do manually through ftp.

I like clean folders. Nobody is perfect :-)

seriously consider also

seriously consider also getting the assignment tool modified as suggested. It's a great tool that would be a wonderful addition to groups and add value to them.